Official Singles Chart Top 40 on 11/12/2020

Are you talking about the Christmas songs they are the oldest songs here

More like Micheal Jackson is the second Weeknd

It doesn't take a lot of downloads to be number 1 there. Its total sales this week is just over 3,300, barely half required to chart in the official top 100

Blimey thats weird, so based on that, to be lets say number 100 in the download charts might be from only 2 or 3 downloads?
To put it another way what format are the majority of people using to get singles in the official top 100? Surely not streaming alone?

Because no one want to listen to it

I just clicked on sales top 100 and Mental as anything is number 1 there too, so is sales a combination of downloads and physical sales? If so you gotta wonder how it still hasent made the official top 100.

Not sure what you mean by that? If a single is number 1 in the sales charts and download charts combined how on earth doesnt it impact on the official charts? Does this mean in other words the majority of the official top 100 is made up of streaming? You got to ask the question this seems strange given streaming was only made legal towards influencing the charts a few years ago. Now all of a sudden its dominating it which doesnt seem fair at all. It only means people of a very young age are dominating the charts from how they obtain their music. For example I am 51 but wouldnt stream music, I'd much prefer to have the product in my hands. Its widely known that artists are getting a raw deal in terms of streaming so it begs the question why is it allowed to influence chart positions on the official charts. Its an injustice to the artists to me.

The other thing is where do we draw the line with how we listen to music and how it should affect chart positions? Streaming seems a fickle way to let it create a chart position if you think about it. You could argue well I heard Weekend Blinding lights 10 times today on various radio stations so should that push it up a few notches in the charts based on the fact I heard it 10 times in one day? Its all become farcicle.

Nobody is streaming it, which means its not charting

Also, the christmas songs are in the way of it charting

I wouldn't say 2 or 3 but more of tens or hundreds.
It is mainly streaming, yes. With a little download/physical to help.

Sales = downloads + physicals yes. But Mental's song is not available as a physical copy (as seen in the Physical Singles Chart) so it doesn't help. Also the 3,300 is its total sales this week, not just downloads alone.

to be fair, it is the first time ever that a number 1 in the downloads/sales chart did not appear in the official top 100. As explained earlier, the downloads and sales chart are two different charts and account for the same amount of charts sales. (3,300 total sales. It doesn't mean 3,300 in downloads chart and 3,300 in sales chart = 6,600)

As much as I agree downloads/physicals should dominate the charts, we are currently in the streaming era and there is really nothing we could do. Downloads already outweigh streaming by counting as 1 sale while streaming needs 100 (premium) or 600 (ad-funded) plays to count for 1 sale but it's obviously not enough. It also doesn't help that we are approaching Christmas (a larger one no less) so the track gets pushed down by these festive classics.

I just find that a shame that streaming doninates the charts now, especially as artists are getting a raw deal on streaming. I am surprised the charts company are allowing streaming as a legal way of compiling the charts.

I think people sign up to places like Spotify or Deezer reasonably cheaply and overnight it seems this is the way people listen to their music. But I dont think it would be so popular had people had to pay a fair price for it. Which is why artists are getting the raw deal. This needs sorting in my opinion asap.

But thats my point, it shouldn't be this way.

She will get there in the next 2 weeks dont worry

If its aired on the radio a lot you'd think so wouldnt you? But then if people are streaming everything these days why do we need radio. Its all upside down now to me.

i am sure next week it will Dami..Hope you are doing well and ready for the Xmas celebration? Still can't believe Mariah is number 1 this week on the single chart!! So happyyyyyyyy! And it seems that she will remain in that position for at least another week..and maybe the following:WHAM ? have a great week...

With or without you 6/10
Without you 7/10
Without me 8/10
Without me 9/10
How am I supposed to live without you 5/10
Flying without wings 4/10
Without you 10/10
Lost without you 3/10
Without fear 10/10
Without you 7/10
Without you 7/10

2 Aug 2019. Without You is a new entry in the Top 40 this week btw :P

Oops. Thank you.

The scotts - The scotts, Travis Scott and Kid Cudi

Thunderclouds - LSD, Sia, Labrinth, Diplo

This chart is always full of surprises

It always is lol

No Band aid will ever be as magical as the one from 84

Yeah the original one is the best, I don't listen to the other three versions

at the christmas party hop :P

I'm pretty sure the artists would disagree with you there, they get far more money from streaming than a physical sale, it just takes a lot longer and get far less to start with. Hence all the big hit makers(and record companies) who could afford not to have their songs available for streaming didn't so they could reap huge reward but then when that died out they soon let their tracks available to stream to get all that extra income...

Well Nile Rogers was being interviewed on the radio just 2 days ago, and he said artists are not getting the correct amount for streaming, but is campaigning to get this changed. Thats why I said streaming shouldn't influence the charts until this is sorted. Its an unfair representation of how popular a song is. Like I said in an earlier post, people are more likely to actually like a song with affection if they bought a physical product compared to a disposable product. If you look at the physical product top 100 its completely different to what the charts company call the official top 100. What baffles me the most is where can I actually buy physical singles? I went to my local HMV and asked where can I buy vinyl or cd singles and the guy looked at me like I was an alien. But the offical charts company do a vinyl singles chart, but I cant seem to buy any anywhere even online. So I am baffled by the fact there is a current chart for them. In my opinion we only need one chart, and any physical format should influence it, but more importantly be widely available to buy otherwise downloading or streaming has an unfair advantage on the charts. For example I am 51 years old and would prefer to buy a vinyl single or cd single but the very fact its almost impossible to buy any how can my favourite artists have a hit single anymore? For example I wanted to buy the latest AC/DC single on vinyl ideally but would have settled on a cd single but I cant get either, so how are bands like AC/DC meant to get a hit single if that particular fan base cant purchase the product in a physical format? Now you see what I mean about streaming isnt a fair reflection on what the potential hits that could be in the official top 100. The majority of the charts are made up of a younger audience who are into downloading and streaming which in turn has ommited the variety we used to have when the physical product reigned as the only way to obtain music. Which was a much fairer way to buy music for all concerned especially the artists. That's what I meant about the official charts are farcicle these days. And the music industry is in disarray in my view.

Not sure what you mean, the official charts is farcicle these days, it should be purchased goods which counts, not streaming, it only prooves anything can get in the top 40. We need better regulating, and artists need better pay for streaming in the first place.

No it hasn't really been picked up by spotify, apple music, deezer or even Amazon music (wasn't even on new releases in amazon! Had to be searched). Shame is a good track and had it happened in black eyed peas and Shakira's hey day a decade ago it would most likely have been massive but times have changed

I'm kinda glad it didn't because Shakira doesn't sound good on it at all she could of been better but the production of the song just doesn't work

It would be #51 without the Christmas songs

i love this week!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🥳

Without you is 3 here in Ireland for some reason

It will probably be top 5 in Australia too

I unironecelly like so done though

Its grown on me actually, I'd give it a light 7/10 now

104 weeks is exactly 2 years :O

Oh wow

Its looking likely this year tbh lol

This actually doesn’t surprise me too much, given what happened with the singles from ‘Thank U, Next’ last February! :P

I didnt follow the charts from december 2018 - may 2019 for some reason so i cant remeber it

But now santa tell me is here

I’m sure ArIana was both #1 & #2 one week back around then! :P

I'd imagine a lot of these will bound back up after Xmas, hopefully Shane Codd will fly up then!
Epic for Mariah though

Yeah, he would’ve reached a new peak today, if it were any other time of year. :)

and this is what my rankings would have looked like...

1) 3/10
2) 6/10
3) 1/10
4) 8/10
5) 8/10
6) 8/10
7) 9/10
8) 10/10
9) 4/10
10) 7/10

11) 7/10
12) 9/10
13) 4/10
14) 7/10
15) 7/10
16) 9/10
17) 3/10
18) 6/10
19) 10/10
20) 5/10

Nice ratings! It’s so annoying that I still have to comment on mobile. :/

Vile BBC? Oh get a grip you Grinch! There's no conspiracy theories here, so do one.

Exactly

Do 1 urself bbc employee

It's between Mariah wham and Taylor
As much as I would love to see pogues finally get 1 they are not a serious contender at the moment

Yep, ever since it's first release, 'Last Christmas' claimed that title. It was released the same week as the original Band Aid single which was equally massive at the time (and also for charity) hence it been blocked from Number 1.

Tbf no one did

All those blue squares has gone too 😂

So did river

Nice, but you know which one I prefer! ;)

I do lol

It’ll probably drop out again next week, thanks to ‘Evermore’! :P

Hmm maybe

I think she’ll get three songs in the Top 100, even with all the Christmas music! :P

that one grows on me every christmas lol.

Excellent

I’m glad you liked it. :)

I'll admit I'm not a big Taylor swift fan but this album is something special

What about the 2 bonus tracks on the physical deluxe edition?

I still need to buy that, but I’ll add them to my review once I have! ;)

It's the version I'm getting, but I'm 3 albums behind (Reputation was the last one I bought :-) )

You haven’t even heard ‘Lover’ nor ‘Folklore’ yet? :O

You’re missing out, haha. Seriously though, let me know what you think of those albums when you get around to them!

That’s amazing! I really appreciate how she’s gone back to her roots this year. :)

we do indeed love it!! 😄

🤣🤣🤣🤣This has to be a record

Reet Petite by Jackie Wilson reached #1 at Christmas 1987, 30 years after it was first released. I believe that holds the record.

Oh wow

Yeah! But that was in the days when it was unusual for a song to re-enter the charts years later and only usually happened when the artist died or it was used in an advert/film soundtrack etc....

I wouldn't be surprised if the record doesn't stand for much longer. If 'Last Christmas' gets to #1 for example it would take that record as would 'Fairytale Of New York'....

Take it easy Taylor

;)

Mate, what a week for you!

I know... possibly one of the best weeks ever for me in terms of music! :D

best chart in years!amazing songs in the top100 but especially MC chart record!dont shut up because i can t either haha

Best chart ever maybe! :D

please don’t shut up about it... it’s good news in a depressing year! 🥳

Oh man, if you think my excitement for Mariah is huge this week, just wait until Taylor impacts the charts next week! ;)

Now we just need the other one to do so too....Fairytale.
Although Shaky being in his highest week in both singles and albums this month for 15 years. Over 30 years in the case of singles, is my highlight.

I hope so! I feel like ‘Last Christmas’ deserves it more for now, but hey, we know what can go to #1 after that one. :)

Freak

Personally I count them all as #2s, with digital re-issues (as opposed to a 26-year-old release getting to #1 'at last'). Of the 3 physical #2s above, all 3 digital re-issues are currently in their highest position with 3 of their traditional sales weeks to go (24th/31st/7th). One digital reissue has exceeded it's physical peak, one equalled and the other still below.

Last Christmas now will always be the biggest selling #2 physical hit. If it gets to #1 and we combine the physical and digital issues, then we have a new best-selling #2 of all time. But which?

Since digital issues came in, Christmas reissues have been becoming bigger and bigger hits year on year: More and more of the chart are Christmas reissues of previous physical hits, a few minor new hits (Kelly Clarkson / Ariana Grande / Sia) and Jess Glynne with a brand new one for this year!

Of the old songs, they're usually in roughly the same order each year and reaching higher peaks with each successive year until the top of the chart is so near, they can't go any higher (The 3rd year running Fairytale has hit #4 and 4th year in the top 5).

The reasons for this year are obvious (and it's started earlier this year too), but any insight why this is a trend for the whole of the previous decade and not just a blip year?

Carry on at this rate, we'll have a top 10 comprising of only old Christmas songs by 2025!

The only modern Christmas hit (21st century) that I think will have any chart consistency going into future decades is ‘Santa Tell Me’!

I hope ‘Underneath The Tree’ can do the same though. :)

Do you really think I’m going to take someone with the name RobertoPOOP seriously? 😂

and Leona Lewis 'One More Sleep'

I think that will certainly get bigger each year too. :)

agreeeeed!!!

I’M SO HYPED! 🥳