Official Singles Chart Top 40 on 04/12/2020

Really? It wasn't even that long since folklore

Yeah, it hasn’t even been five months since ‘Folklore’ was released! :O

I’m not complaining though, since the album is, once again, amazing.

I still think songs should fall naturally instead of falling dramatically after ten weeks

100%

i have my fingers crossed 🤞

Bieber has 'Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree' at #21, 'Lonely' at #42 and 'Mistletoe' at #43.
Shawn Mendes has 'Monster' at #26, which has Bieber as a lead artist but counts towards Shawn's total because he's the primary lead artist and it was released on his label.

rip legend 🙏

It really should, its a banger

long time no speak fam :)

just listened to holiday and it’s really really cool, i hope it reaches top 40 sometime soon. strong 7/10 for now.

also have you heard “tyler herro” by jack harlow? that’s really underrated and i don’t want jack to be a one hit wonder, especially when that song is awesome!

Hey dude, Glad you also like 'Holiday'! I'd personally give it an 7 or 8.

I have heard Tyler Herro, I thought it was pretty nice but it has way less hit potential than Whats Poppin imo. I'm pretty sure Jack Harlow's releasing an album soon, so maybe he can get another hit from there :)

Hey Thierry! :)

Try this...

https://www.officialcharts.c*m/charts/scottish-singles-chart/

OCC don’t let me post full links anymore, so just replace * with o, haha.

It better become a hit after xmas

good for you

h.

It needs to fall further than that. :/

it really has to, all i want for christmas is you is a classic. if it doesn’t reach number 1 thanks to acr, you know the rest lolz.

The charts already limit it to 10 streams per song for 1 person each day.

It's a start. But an physical sale was kind of always front loaded and the amount you played it weeks, months and years later never counted towards chart "sales" like they do now

The way I see it, that's because the artist only got money when you bought the single, whereas with streaming an artist gets money with every single play.

Fair point maybe they should get the same amount then when those equivalent sales by a single listener are reached? And nothing after...

Personally I'd like to see chart sales based off how much money is actually made, so for example Apple Music would have a streams:sales ratio of 150:1 since that's roughly how many streams are needed to equal the same amount of money on that platform as 1 sale, Spotify would be 200:1, YouTube would be 1,500:1, etc.

Yeah, that always happens on the first chart of the year

If OCC don't screw it up, Mariah has it in the bag.

Accurate.

I still did a review, but that was more of a summary! :P

Very insightful and interesting

Accurate though! :P

so accurate fam... positions is so annoying! 🙄

It’s getting worse for me with every listen too. :/

lmao. that was on point.

Hahaha...really agree with you mate!! Can't believe that with so many good songs and artists out there, Positions , a totally mediocre song, it's still number 1! Wake up UK!!!.

Yeah, not only is ‘Positions’ souring on me more with every listen, but it’s blocking some the best festive classics of all-time from getting there, all because of a rule which makes literally zero sense. :/

Haha, yeah, I don’t think anyone is happy with this new chart! :P

ACR = manipulation = inaccurate

Streaming

It's because of the way streaming "sales" are counted toward the chart.

it's Streaming. people just search and play directly without buying and it impact the charts

They've decided that it's not good enough to count sales of music they need to count every time you play the CD (stream(. Thank god the charts made more sense when I was a little un.

Although the official sales chart doesn't make for much better reading, it's better.

Shouldn't be allowed to influence the chart in my opinion. Physical sales should only count, or purchased downloads. But preferably physical.

There are dozens of people still buying physical singles. Dozens!

But thats the problem, it used to be hundreds of thousands.

Which is why streaming's allowed in.

It would be completely unrepresentative of anything anybody actually listened to if it wasn't.

But thats the awful way things have evolved isnt it? What I mean is if downloading and streaming didnt exist we all would still be happily buying the physical product. We live in a throw away society today, and it seems youngsters today dont really have their heart and soul in the artist or music. When I was growing up I took an equal interest in the artwork of the album, lyric sheet, the artist the whole works, not just the songs. Artists when I was growing up had at least one album out a year and probably 4 or 5 singles per album, and they kept going for decades not months. To me the music industry is in a terrible state and I certainly wouldnt want want to be growing up today. I am proud to say I grew up with the best artists and best music. I think the best 2 decades were 70's and 80's, but the single best 10 years were probably 73 - 83. Streaming if you think about it is no better than waiting to hear your favourite song come on the radio and recording it to tape to play when you like, with no real compassion towards artist or song, compared to putting your effort into buying it. Yes of course we can buy a download, but its not money very well spent is it? In my opinion to get people actually into the music again we need to wipe out streaming and downloading. But what do I know?

The problem is artists are getting a raw deal when it comes to streaming, they simply are not getting paid what they should be. If you are a fan of someone do the right thing and buy the blinking CD.

Well I am 51 years old and would prefer to buy a vinyl single or cd single but the very fact its almost impossible to buy any how can my favourite artists have a hit single anymore? For example I wanted to buy the latest AC/DC single on vinyl ideally but would have settled on a cd single but I cant get either, so how are bands like AC/DC meant to get a hit single if that particular fan base cant purchase the product in a physical format? Now you see what I mean about streaming isnt a fair reflection on what the potential hits that could be in the official top 100. The majority of the charts are made up of a younger audience who are into downloading and streaming which in turn has ommited the variety we used to have when the physical product reigned as the only way to obtain singles.

Where's Heatwave?

Not in the Top 10! :P

Seriously though, all ten songs are great songs

Thank you! :D

I love It by Icona Pop its a classic banger!!!!

One of the best party anthems of the 2010’s in my opinion! :D

Absolutely agree! I hope one day soon a Kylie hit will appear in your list🙄🙄😁🙏🙏

Some of her latest singles appeared low down in my recent singles chart, but you’re more likely to see her in my throwbacks lists! ;)

Songs over 3 years old cant get reset. Bullsh*t!

They probably made an agreement with christmas songs since they all disappear from the chart a week after

They cannot get reset automatically. They can apply for a manual reset but apparently it got rejected last year -_-

say it with me BIASED

ROBBED

FIXED

Slow network??🤣

lmao 😂😂

I don't think they are accurate anymore because of the 3 song rule and ACR it is not as good as it was before ACR and the 3 song rule was introduced. Hope they make change.

Because of three particular letters

Because All I Want For Christmas Is You has been around for 26 years and Positions has been around for 6 weeks lol

Again... bias. :/

Accelerated Chart Ratio, aka ACR. AIWFCIY's streams count as half of the sales units that they would normally because the song's old. I despise the policy, it does no good to the charts.

I know, haha. I was asking more how OCC can somehow still think it’s a good rule to have! :P

To stop album tracks looking back on charts from 2016 and 17 people were complaining about them

I don’t know... I think there have been more ACR complaints that album bomb complaints! :P

Because streaming massively accelerates trends that started in the download era like every song from Ed Sheeran's album swallowing up the Top 20 or festive favourites taking up the entire chat every December. As a result the OCC have come up with more convoluted rules on what can qualify etc... but this arguably makes things even worse because the charts become less of an accurate reflection with every manipulation. I don't really know what the answer is.

Crownnote > OCC

IRMA > OCC

Ugh ikr. Blame ACR.

Agree, but I'm more that great new Christmas songs by Ava Max, Carrie Underwood with John Legend and Dan + Shay get overlooked for all these old old tunes.

Ever heard of ACR??

It's gonna rebound after the holidays

Yeah it definitely will

River caught me off guard too💀💀

My favorite song of the year is- no I can't choose.
Favorite album, Without Fear. Whatever Dermot does 💯
Folklore also hit home.

Also tell me what you think about Three.Two.One by Lennon Stella

I honestly just thought ‘River’ would only be a thing last year & everyone would forget about it in 2020, but apparently not! :P

‘Without Fear’ is indeed an amazing album, but as my profile picture shows, ‘Folklore’ saved this year for me (although ‘Future Nostalgia’ is certainly up there). :)

Oh, so it’s apparently a full album & not a song? Hmm... I like a lot of Lennon Stella’s music, so I look forward to checking that one out! :D

Its far from perfect but surely back in the day, how many times you played a cd would mean how much you actually liked it? Streaming is the way forward as why should a song that is bought and listened to just once compare to a song that is bought and played 1000 times? Surely the song which has been played more is more 'popular' whilst the current charts are not perfect they are most certainly heading in a better way for popularity although I'm pretty sure that many youngsters out there just pop a song on repeat to effect its chart position, but the charts have always been to show popularity. The amount of plays compared to the amount of buys surely shows popularity more, take the recent charity singles which people buy, not so many people listen even when bought showing a huge entry then disappearing in a week or 2.

Exactly.

HAHA🤣🤣

I hope this is an IT Crowd reference 🤣

No I've never watched the IT Crowd lol

I highly recommend it, it's hilarious lol

This UK This

Laughs in ACR

ACR can do one. :/

I'm alright. How are you doing now?

Not good, but I’m glad you’re okay. :/

Don't worry, It'll be alright.

Thanks! I guess this disappointing chart didn’t exactly help, haha.

At least it’s the weekend though! :D

Great after completing some chart research and finding out a great stat!

Hello, Piran. I'm OK. I hope that you feel better soon. Have a nice weekend!

Hey Yianang! :)

I’m not bad today! Thanks, you too.

Oh really, what was the stat? :)

There are almost exactly 13,000 artists to have hit singles. The median number of hits is 1, meaning over half (6,500) of them have had just one hit.

The average is 3 to the nearest whole number. I found that astounding. More detailed work will follow regarding, when and what positions those 1-hit artists peaked at, and accounting for artists (e.g. groups) that contain more successful hit acts or a soloist from a more successful group. One example of those is Andrew Ridgely. A one-hit-wonder as a solo artist.

Really glad that Kylie's version of Santa Baby re enters at 57!!

That’s amazing for Kylie! It means that she might get a Top 40 appearance in 2020 after all then. :)

Oh wow, how long did it take you to research all of that? :P

Really?? Im not too hopeful about it, its original peak was 38

There are faster ways to have found out that single stat, but the method I used was built to be a more powerful research tool enabling hundreds more undiscovered chart facts. At 8 to 10 hours a day every day, most weeks 7 days and some 5-6 days a week, it took both lockdowns and the bit inbetween! Been working on it solidly since March!

Someone published the writers list in the last Guinness hit singles book, it took them 7 years to research, so just over 7 months doesn't seem so bad :-)

So about 1850 hours!

I make that out to be about two & a half months! :P

That’s some impressive research! :D

I don’t have all that free time spare sadly, but if I did, I’d totally do something similar, haha.

I think it’s #36 in today’s update, so that’ll hopefully be a new peak for her on Friday! :D

Wowww, that's good news!! Thank you Piran for the info!!

On a similar note the fact that 'Wonderful Christmastime' has re-entered the Top 40 now means that Paul McCartney has appeared on a Top 40 record in SEVEN consecutive decades!

Yeah, as far as I’m aware, he’s the only artist ever to have done this. :)

You’re welcome! :D