Official Singles Chart Top 40 on 30/7/2021

Simple, just make a stream a whole sale. 🤭

And nothing else you mentioned is ever a problem...

Seems like no one knows how the artists in the official singles charts gain initial exposure?

It’s easy, you’re just behind. 🥱

Also, with that last paragraph, you really just don’t like change, just because an artist you like can’t have hits anymore doesn’t mean streaming is wrong. 😭

Streaming...

No its happening to artists I dont like too, its just that I happen to notice the way streaming dominates the official singles charts is an inaccurate way to see how fans listen to music.
Explain this, how can a single be number 1 in the official download charts, yet not be inside the top 100 official single charts?
Something has to be wrong here?

It was on Radio 1 when it was on a Sunday afternoon. The same station it's been on since 1967, previously on the Light Programme before that. The younger audience have always dominated the charts, even back when it was sales as they have the most free time and money.

Sales are calculated into the chart still, the artists you follow can have hits by selling a tonne of singles as downloads to outweigh the streaming (the BTS model).

Because the number of people downloading music is insignificant compared to the number of people streaming. For context a song has to be streamed 150 or 300 times to count as one single sale for the chart in a week. No individual is listening to a song that much, so that's a few dozen different people listening to make up one sale. They have to choose to listen to it, it can just auto play at them.

Everything in the chart system is set up to discentive streaming, but the sheer number of people streaming has now reached the critical mass where it can't be destroyed.

I think there is an independent chart somewhere on this website

There is, if you click on rock and alternative then it will come up with the option indie singles

It's most likely that you've not charted on one of the main charts. To be quite honest flooding the comment section looks like a desperate PR attempt for an unknown artist and is a bit ungracious, if there's a genuine issue email kantar.

Who?

i already claimed the happier than ever album cover though, so tough luck. :P

The more the merrier

Lol maybe I’ll go to When We Fall Asleep

I think even Ed would be the first to admit that he thought Bad habits was going to be knocked off by the footy anthem, but that didnt even happen.

He's invincible it seems...haha

Check out MC Ragga wa dis amigo on all download sites been told we have entries in the top 10 by kantar but they are not appearing here

Ok

His downfall will come though, check out how many non top 40 hits hes had, its quite a few.

Looking like a top 10

Think her lockdown self-centredness has really froze her out of the running with a large section of society.

Yep Thierry, I do hope Rita Ora can have another top 20

mc ragga too, been told we have entered into the top 10 by kantar but not showing? check out on all download sites good luck to mimi Webb

i’m certainly liking the new dermot track! it’s not among his best for me but i still really like it, hope it gets a charting position very soon. :)

i agree with you coolocelot101..great single but not his best..my favourite is still ALL MY FRIENDS...hopefully a 2nd album on the way?

Hi Coolocelot101. Hope you are fine and had a great week end..did reply to you earlier on but the OC kept deleting my comment! I do agree with you not his best single, my favourite being: ALL MY FRIENDS..

hi thierry! sorry to hear about your comment getting removed by occ.

all my friends is a great song by him, but my favourite from him has to be an evening i will not forget, it’s such a beautiful and the best from without fear imo. in fact, the entire album is amazing! no skips whatsoever.

hope your weekend has been good. :)

It's my favourite song atm

It keeps avoiding at the last minute, it’s the Houdini of ACR

maybes it could when the albums released?? :)

Here here, probably won't happen though as ZZ Top fans dont stream, not sure about Slipknot.

Never thought about that

Its a shame but streaming is killing music.

Its because the format streaming if you can call it a format, it favours a younger audience, or I should say a younger audience prefers streaming. Hence why I think the integrity and diversity of music is dead today in the charts. The whole top 100 is built from youngsters streaming. Only a very very small contribution from downloads impact the charts and and even smaller impact is felt from the physical product. But obviously people like myself aged 50 and above would prefer to buy the physical single.

I'm 51 meself and have noticed for several years that the charts completely nowadays There used to be a time when metal bands, hard rock bands and indie rock bands were always in the top 40 but not now which explains why it's been FIFTEEN years since Iron Maiden's last top 40 single and that's a long time for them

I agree, but not just Maiden, countless rock bands only get hit albums these past 15 years or so. The way the system favours streaming has frozen out certain artists from having a hit single. But I will say not just Rock and Metal, a lot of what we might call older artists are frozen out now. I remember a time you would have a country artist like Glen Campbell, in the same top 40 as Motorhead, or Status Quo would be a few places up from Chas and Dave, we really have lost all this diversity.

Over time this is likely to return though as streaming becomes the dominant format again.

Plus we now have songs not released as singles charting on the so called singles chart therefore the OCC need to change the rules again

To be honest its a complete mess to me now. I grew up really enjoying following the charts. The only thing streaming has achieved is its almost made piracy non existant.
But I dont see the point in subscribing to Spotify or something just to gain access to a library of artists that sound awful. Most of the songs are streamed at an awful quality.
I would rather buy the CD or vinyl so I can play it over and over without the need for the internet.

Agree

Absolutely, same happens to Kylie Minogue, she cant chart a single inside the top ten since 2018, mainly because most of her fans don't stream and just keep buying records

Exacty Dami, there are quite a few artists like it if you dig deeper, Katy Perry was one that surprised me, Rita Ora, even one of the Harry Styles ones, oh and Madonna the queen of pop. Dont get me wrong Im not a fan of the singers I just mentioned, but it is through casual interest I have observed this going on a lot now. It actually makes you wonder who is actually streaming in their millions towards one song, yet that artist is relatively unknown, well to me anyway. It used to be a case of an artist was known and got to be liked, and rarely had a fail due to their status. To me its all so fickle now its unreal. Im glad I grew up in the era I did, 70's and 80's. Some of the 90's was great too.

The whole system is ageist and unfair, artists are not even being paid properly via streaming. It needs a big shake up!

Absolutely agree with you Dave. I'm 47 and been a chart fan since my 14's and always enjoyed the diversity that every artist could chart a song no matter her/his style of music, as you mentioned too. If the song was good and a hit it could be top ten, 5 or 1. Nowadays, you have plenty of hits that even crack the top 100 cos their artists arent popular on streaming platforms or even worse, in tik tok. That's the way these artists still rule in the albums charts. It's a shame

It is a shame because it highlights the fact an artist like Pink Floyd, Iron Maiden, etc etc can storm in at number 1 in the albums charts because they still have an enormous fan base, but the fact its number 1 is via physical sales, yet their singles wont get a look in on the official charts because streaming is dominating the whole top 100. Older fans are not going to mess about streaming, like myself I like to collect the artists material to be able to hold it and look at it. I wonder if our type of era will ever come back?

Exactly, there are lots of artists that this has affected to be honest, more than I can even think about. I fail to see how streaming benefits the record industry, because if their artists are not seeming popular by failing to have at least the occasional hit single, why is that a good thing? In the old days if you had 3 or more flops in a row they would drop you.
I cant see how someone can subscribe to Spotify for example for a pittance to access a library of artists and the record companies and artists are making the same money as their physical sales, its impossible in my opinion.
In fact artists are already complaining because it takes literally tens of thousands of streams just by one track to get it into the top 100, but how are older fans going to even get close to that?
To put it bluntly who the heck is sat there streaming in their millions towards one song? It begs the question are they not listening to anyrhing else? There is only so much time in the day or night.
When I was young I listened to the whole album, not just one track.

There is this guy on youtube, is link is called: Will streaming last TDNC. I urge anyone to check it out. He talks sense.

Absolutely agree!

gotta be when we all fall asleep for me, but i adore both. 👌

i prefer HTE... its full of bops!

Haven't listened to the album yet but I'll check it out

Can you say that HPE is up to the first one

i brought it up last week, but sam fender really deserved more with that song, even if it’s not my favourite of his. he’s such a talented artist.

glad to see some arlo parks recognition as well. 👌

Dave with 3 singles in the top 10, and a no 1 album.
Who buys this rubbish.
I'm going to get my head bitten off now lol

Up 10 places to No 60 today.
It still isn't going to make The Top 40 is it.
Fans like me don't want to download it or stream it.
We want the record in our hands, like albums.

that’s what happens with most rock and indie artists and bands, their fans don’t tend to stream them, instead they just want a purchased copy like a cd single. that’s why they’re more successful on the albums chart.

still glad it climbed tho, but it would’ve been better if it made the top 40.

Proves my point, The Singles Charts are pants and don't mean anything these days as fans of Rock, Indie artists and bands won't chart cause we want the vinyl/cd Single.
I just pray The Album Charts don't go that way.
This is why The Album Charts are so different.
Most of the records in The Top 100 today wouldn't of made The Singles Charts when there was Vinyl and Cd Singles.

it ain’t on acr, it just tanked.

apparently this was due to a chart mistake where last week they combined the streams for demeanor and woo baby, but it’s been fixed this week.

made it a bit inaccurate lol.

Good review. :)

By the way, I think OCC made a mistake last week by counting ‘Woo Baby’s streams as part of ‘Deameanor’s!

They’ve corrected it now, but it’s resulted in the former debuting today & the latter collapsing in the new chart, haha.

Have a nice weekend!

i saw a user bring it up last week, glad they fixed the mistake this week. have a great evening mate!

Thank you! How's your day been? :)

Amazing Top 10, especially #1. :)

Thanks. I like every single one of them 😁

You're welcome! Your music taste is impressive. :)

Wow... Nobody has ever told me that before :O. Most people say my taste in music is weird :P

I don't think it's weird & even if it was, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that! :P

Thanks :)

You're welcome! How was your birthday anyway? :)

It was fine... Thanks :)

Awesome! Glad you had a nice time. :)

glad remember went up lol.

Yeah, it’s just boring to me as opposed to bad. 😭

Probably going to go lower next week, but not as low as it was. :)

don’t know, it’s so underrated.

At least Radio 1 are supporting it a lot. :)

Happy birthday for next week. :)

Happy Birthday for next week! :)

omg happy birthday!

happy birthday for then kiesling! have an awesome day. 🎂

Thanks :)

Thank You :)

Thanks A Lot 😁

Thank You

Happy birthday for Monday. Make sure you stream dance monkey on Monday😉.

I'll listen to her EP and her album 😁😁

I've not done yet but I'm planning on doing

From The EP. I personally prefer Never Seen The Rain but Dance Monkey is there too

Happy b day tomorrow!!!

Thanks

You're welcome. :)

Hey, how are you doing this week? :)

Good for her, although Payday outsold easily. 😩

Hope you’re doing well. :)

hii! i'm feeling amazing, how r u?

so glad need to know hit a new peak, even if i still think the albums mid. :)

yess payday is one of the best on the album fs!

i respect ur opinion! btw i loved HTE... might be my 2nd favorite album of the year 😅

Awesome! Not bad thanks, but very happy that it’s the weekend. :)

What do you think of the new chart then?

oh yes, the album was amazing!! 😻

i havent heard half of the songs on the chart so i cant really comment on it hahaha... doja is doing sm better there than shes doing here in america and i love it! i like that industry baby could reach the top 10 next week, and idm the new camila song either 😅😅

I was actually really disappointed with ‘Don’t Go Yet’ sadly! Yeah, it’s okay, but I expected something amazing coming from one of my favourite artists of all-time & this is nothing compared to some of her biggest hits. :/

I agree with you on the Doja tracks & ‘Industry Baby’ though!

who is that fav artist of all time from you then?

2nd in the UK and only a few tens of thousands behind Bad Habits, it's coming for glory

Amazing Top 10. :)

thank you :)

#4 put a huge smile on my face. :)

Great ratings

thank you <3

check out wa dis amigo by mc Ragga told by kantar that we have entries in top 10 but battling to get in on the website :-)

omg same :D

new morray?! ima check it out. definitely the best freshman xxl put on the list this year.

its not new, but its a remix with polo g and its FIRE. my only criticism is morray is so soulful it makes polo g sound like travis scott lmao

i heard it and it’s great, second best new release of the week behind a1 x j1’s new track for me. light 8/10.

Absolutely!!!

Can you recommend some songs from it for me🙂

I finally found a billie eilish song i liked :D

are you a fan of billie by any chance? maybes check out some of the album tracks i listed. overheated especially! :)

what song was it?

😮 which one?

https://disqus.com/by/disqus_05NUMewRHa/ Happier Than Ever :)

Yes. Well I was before your power and lost cause came along but I like all the others.

that one blew me away!

I'm going to listen to it now. :)

Billie proved she is here to stay on Happier Than Ever. It's easily one of this year's best albums! Getting awesome reviews from critics as well. 👍

Only heard the title track outsold of the singles, but oh my god it’s amazing. 😍

Excited to hear it at some point. :)

How good is Happier Than Ever ??

Hopefully top 40 next week

I hope so! We need an ACR clear-out for it to get there though, haha. :)

hope it goes top 40 soon. might be her best song.

maybe save your tears will finally go

Oh, it's nowhere near my favourite song of hers, but it's still a strong 8/10, even after a few weeks of me mass streaming it! ;)

Possibly! It always seems to be avoiding it, haha. :)

Listened to the song last week and I enjoyed it

If it ends up on ACR, it'll just be like Blinding Lights

Awesome! She’s so underrated. :)

I actually like her previous songs "Strangers" and "Don't Feel Like Crying"

Yesss....good for Sigrid for keep on climbing!

Sigrid is amazing! So happy for her this week. :)

Absolutely mate. Love her since her first album. Have you listened to Dagny? Another incredible Scandinavian artist who does pop perfection

Same here actually. :)

I still haven't yet, but I've seen a lot of praise about her on here! Which songs of hers should I listen to first? :)

check out mc ragga the data should show but it is not on all download sites

Check out MC Ragga ,on all download sites told we have chart entries by kantar but are not appearing here on all download sites don't know what is happening....

She's Norwegian right ??

Yeah, she is. :)

I could feel it :)

OMG TYLER HERRO :D

tyler herro was awesome, deserved way better.

Never even reached the Top 100 here. At least it was a minor hit on Billboard though.

Absolute banger. Strong 9/10.

i agree, it’s been on constant repeat for me. 10/10.

Light 9/10 for me for now, putting in my Top 5 favourite songs of hers! ;)

I agree with you and Piran!!! 😎

Update: Listening to the title track now & I adore it already! 😍

It's probably the second best single track from the album after "Your Power"

I just heard the title track for the first time & that’s already my second favourite from the album! :O

What's your favorite ??

One of my favourite Billie singles to date. Totally underrated.

It was my third favourite from the album, behind 'Oxytocin' & the title track. :)

Probably 'Oxytocin'. :)

Mine would either be overheated or Male Fantasy

Both of them were somewhere in the middle for me, haha. :)

Surprisingly, I didn't really like Happier Than Ever (the song)

Hey Piran! what about Dua Lipa´s "Love again"? I like it, thou I still repeat "Levitating" a lot" along with Marshmello´s "Leave before you love me"

NDA is great!!

Piran!! I just finished listening to the whole Billie Eilish album...it is soooo wonderful, love most of the songs, like Oxytocin, Male Fantasy, the title track, overheated, Bossa Nova...great music!

For some reason "Getting Older" reminded me of "Driver´s License"...🤔

I never heard the resemblance there, but 'Male Fantasy' (the closing track) has been growing on me a lot lately! :P

I'm glad that you liked it! I might post my ratings for it on the new Top 100 chart tonight, but I think we have mostly mutual favourites which is awesome. :)

Light 9/10 for me! :D

I'm surprised that 'Love Again' isn't a bigger hit either! I'm still obsessed with 'Levitating' too, although I'll now be listening to just the original version, haha. :)

Aww, how come? :(

I didn't really feel it the first time

Give it a few more listens & hopefully it'll grow on you. :)

Bad Habits is still No. 1

I like it, but at the same time, I’m getting tired of it! :P

Exactly 🤦

Hi dear Piran, thanks and hope you have a really good week too!

You're welcome! Mine was fine thanks. How was yours? :)

Fine too mate, plenty of sunny lovely winter days. Tomorrow going back to work after 2 weeks off for winter holidays

I'm off work from the 13th to the 23th of August, which is a much needed break for me! :P

Piran! how are ya?? I had a blast of a weekend!! I liked this top 100...a very good week in the music scene, hope you are pleased with all the movements, hoping "Black Magic" rebounds and reach the top

Hey Gerardo! :)

Glad to hear that you had a nice weekend! Mine was also good, although today was sadly incredibly stressful for me.

I'm very happy with most of the moves on the chart this week too & I agree that it'd be amazing to see 'Black Magic' reach #1 in the UK later this month!

Dear Piran...a curiosity, What caused the stress in you? work? study? the weather? I heard you guys in Europe are experimenting distress with weather phenomena...we had a great deal of it last November wuth 2 great and destructing storms...so, I was a little curious about the cause of your stress 😀🤔 no intention to bother!! sorry if I am being too curious...

It's probably because of how hectic it's been lately! :(

Thanks for asking though! I really appreciate it. :)