Official Singles Chart on 8/7/2016

GHOSTBUSTERS!

I will

Ew no. The song is generic as , and this time round you can't even say the guest rapper improves the song.

Ew no. The song is so generic, and this time round you can't even say the guest rapper improves the song.

Actually you really can- Fetty Wap is a great rapper who has been one of the most popular here and in the USA in the past 12 months.

Popular doesn't mean good

Drake would have been at number 1 for like 3 weeks if sales were discounted

I'm glad that it entered

And the sales chart, too, I believe

It's not a fix, it's just that Drake is really big on streaming platforms.

Or they just put a bunch of songs nobody knows on like that Christine & The Queens song.

Tracklist's came out now, check it out. Numerous ones were only on there because they couldn't think of any others

Just because streaming is staying doesn't mean we have to like it.

I never said you had to like it. I posted this video here to help you understand why it's part of the charts and why it's staying.

I know but everytime someone says 'Screw streaming' or something like that you have to bomb them with the video

I do that because I want to make sure they understand why it's there and why it's not going away. But barely anyone is listening to me.

It's a fix

wrong

12 likes! HOW DO YOU FEEL M8?

Nice if the OCC would take notice

I wasn't being sarcastic, by the way.

Never thought you were Synth

Okay fine

The thing is that the formula isn't just arbitrary: it reflects the reality of the average revenue generated by the 2 major formats. Messing with it to induce volatility would mean to mess with the integrity of the chart. If the chart seems stagnant, that's reflective of the rate at which the populous is accepting new songs and giving repeat spins to the hits.

Okay then, but let's compare 'This Girl' & 'One Dance' in terms of the 3 chart contributors this week:
- 'This Girl': #1 on sales, #1 on downloads, #4 on streams
- 'One Dance': #11 on sales, #11 on downloads, #1 on streams
Surely this implies that 'This Girl' should've been more popular than 'One Dance' this past week. As I've mentioned in previous reviews of mine, I completely agree with streaming being incorporated into the charts (as this is the way more music fans are consuming music nowadays)... but not to the extent where the best performing song in the country for 13 weeks actually was the most bought for just 3 of those weeks.
People can say " 'One Dance' had longer at #1 than 'I Will Always Love You' & 'Umbrella' ", however it was much harder for the latter two to do so because Rihanna & Whitney did it all on purchases. That said, you are entitled to your opinion how you think the chart formats should be used.
Also on another strange yet interesting fact, 'One Dance' is the 3rd longest consecutive #1 song in the UK of all-time, but it's never been #1 on the Scottish Singles Chart at all.

Ranks only tell part of the tale. IIRC, This Girl is doing about 30% better than One Dance in sales, but One Dance is doing about 50% better in streams. In other words, the distribution of streaming amongst songs is far more logarithmic than sales, where margins go on a more gradual scale barring a new release. It's pretty clear who the victor is in this scenario.

Also, Downloads is a subset of Sales, so to cite both of them to say something "deserves" #1 more is misleading.

So do you know how often the OCC update the chart formula, if they ever have done since the inclusion of streaming? When I checked, I believe it was something like: 1 'copy' sold (either physical or download) = 100 streams.
I saw an article yesterday on this website that announced the biggest singles of 2016 so far in the UK Singles chart & 'One Dance' is currently 2nd as a result of selling 1.142m total 'copies'.
However... it has received 74.8m UK listens since release, so going by the current chart formula, it would have got 748k of the 1.142m from streaming. This means that 'One Dance' received 394k actual purchases, which is still really good considering how low pure sales have been this year relative to earlier this decade. :)
I don't have that much of a problem with 'One Dance' being #1 on the UK Singles Chart for 13 consecutive weeks (I'm really pleased for Drake with that achievement) but it just annoys me slightly when people constantly say he topped Rihanna's & Whitney's chart feats, because that is an unfair comparison to be honest. 'One Dance' wouldn't have done what 'Umbrella' & 'I Will Always Love You' did if there was no streaming, like back then.

What is wrong with counting the first stream of a song, per account, as equal to a full download sale, and then not counting any more streams of that same song for the same account? I think the fact that the chart is based on revenue, rather than number of sales, is rather unrepresentative. It should be about how many people buy or stream a song once, not how many times people incessantly stream a song.

I'll just say that I'm not fond of comparing eras further than 5 or so years because at that point it really is comparing apples to oranges. Heck, I wouldn't compare this year to anything further back than 2013 in good faith due to the rise of streaming. So much of the climate of music consumption changes relatively rapidly so that achievements really do rely on the context of its era to have meaning.

But it's balanced out in that a sale is worth around a hundred streams. If someone's such a power user that they listen to a track through streaming a hundred times (and I don't think I've even listened to a lot of songs I've bought that much), it's practically as if they bought the song through getting that much use of it, and in any case the revenue generated is just as much, so I think it's justified however one looks at it.

Hopefully Olly Murs get another top 10. If Don't Let Me Down can do it Olly Murs had better.

Scotland is lucky then

TILTED at the top!!!

lets hope not

So what music DO you like then?

They should never have made the main chart sales + streams. It changes what that chart has been about for over sixty years; sales. By all means, measure how much people are listening to the track in a streams chart, but don't equate it with sales. That's utter nonsense. Even worse is when they then make false comparisons to earlier sales-only charts. You can't make comparisons of sales of oranges and apples with sales of just oranges!

"One Dance' is the 3rd longest consecutive #1 song in the UK of all-time"; those earlier number ones were based on sales only, so it's a false comparison. How long was "One Dance" #1 on sales?

Cassettes coexisted with records and (slowly) wiped them out. CDs coexisted with cassettes and then wiped them out. Downloads coexisted with CDs and (for singles mostly) wiped them out. Streaming now coexists with downloads and is slowly killing downloads' market share. This Girl is the leader in sales but is doing pathetically overall; I've heard it's somewhere in the 25k range, while One Dance is slightly above half of that. Both the "people's champion" and One Dance are now getting the majority of their points from streams (and the points are proportional to the studied revenue), which leads to the inevitable conclusion that streams are becoming more important in the music industry than straight sales.