Official Singles Chart on 8/1/2016

I don't think they've ever entered the UK charts which is surprising when there tour is sold out. I only got into them after seeing them on the MTV awards. I'd never heard of them before that

Yeah I also discovered them recently, but they do have plenty of good music. I was just surprised because this kind of music in general appears more in here, while u.s is left with the pop ones, but now it seems the other way

Though some opinions you've expressed are ones I agree with to an extent, YouTube video plays don't count to the chart... Not yet anyway, but they're trying to (the OCC have been reluctant to count them as watching a video and listening to a song are different concepts).

I totally agree with you, but see my post above. There is a sales only chart like how the charts used to be compiled. Unfortunately the chart we look at appears to be the priority one.

Streams are added to the charts because sales are losing out and will be completely nonexistent within the next 5 years, so streams are a good way to see what songs are more popular. They're not removing streams from the charts as long streams continue to be as used (and sometimes even more used) as sales are.

If you want to see what the charts look like WITHOUT streamings, feel free to check the SALES chart out: http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-sales-chart/

Vinyl sales are up...nonexistent I don't think so.

What a load of old c***. That sales chart link that you posted is an accurate description of what the public are buying, and HE only has three tracks in the entire top 40, rather than about 16. Listen, do you really think that streaming isn't fixable? Are you stupid enough to think that record companies don't have entire rooms full of computers the world over (and people working for them) that are streaming the songs on loop round the clock? You must be pretty stupid if you think this is an accurate chart, when it's laughable. You wouldn't be able to walk into a shop and buy multiple CD singles, nor can you buy multiple downloads as they will annual your track. Yet for some reason multiple plays from the same computers count? Laughable. This isn't the 'official' charts. Oh, and I look forward to seeing you in five years lol.

Sales are losing out. In like, 5 years, sales will be 100% nonexistant. Streaming is the best way nowadays to see what songs are more popular. If that bothers you, either check the sales chart or don't check the charts at all.

"Are you stupid enough to think that record companies don't have entire rooms full of computers the world over (and people working for them) that are streaming the songs on loop round the clock?"

Maybe, but most of that is the public. Bieber has a giant following, so his music is being streamed like crazy. If that bothers you, well, take it up with the Beliebers. And of course it's an accurate chart! It combines sales and streams to see the popularity of charts. What else do you want? And of course this is the "Official Charts." It's been like that since the 50's (except without streaming as it didn't exist then) and it always will be. And in 5 years, when CD stores start closing due to not enough business and streaming will be the only way to see a song's success, I look forward to seeing YOU.

Not that I have a problem right now with Bieber scoring it but I am starting to agree with you on how it's fixed.

It just happens that he's #1, #2, and #3 on the charts. It's mostly because of streams which are making sure he stays for a long period of time. Certainly an acheivement, but I am getting a little sick of him. Shawn Mendes will break the consecutive chart position streak next week when he rises higher.

And what do you mean "His fans don't know what music is?" Of course they do! It's instrumental and vocal sounds combined to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion. Justin 100% fits that definition.

No he does not, he is just a puppet and you just lap it up because you are not able to think for yourself.

He's a human, not a puppet! When he lies, his nose doesn't grow! Why is he a "puppet?"

puppet as is operated by somebody else.

Prefer the sales only chart anyway. That is what people want because they pay for it.

What do you mean "real chart?" This is the real chart! Why isn't it "real?" because streams are added? Hey, in 5 years sales will be completely nonexistent, so streams are the best way to see what songs are more popular. It's not going away. If that bothers you, like you said, look at the sales chart.

Sales will never be nonexistent, vinyl sales are up and cds, download sales have dropped!

very true, over the years the UK has produced some of the biggest bands in music history. Beatles, Rolling Stones, Who, Led Zeppelin, Queen, Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac, what have we got now, nothing but a load of passing itself off as music.

absolutely true

And each week there were about 15 new songs of all possible genres, mostly of good quality. You had to watch it every week to keep step with the developments. Now I only check it out occasionally and only to realize that it wasn't worth doing it.

Paloma Faith aint bad.

mu·sic
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noun
1.
vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) combined in such a way as to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion.

"A load of passing itself off as music."

Uhh... of course it's music! It totally fits that definition above. If it's not music, what is it? And don't tell me "noise" because all music is noise.

There is good noise and bad noise,Bieber is bad noise.

That's subjective. To the Beliebers, Bieber is good noise, and music you like might be bad noise to them.

totally agree! We need music where the artists actually express themselves rather than a commercial agreement on what will get them the most money, we need more spirit within the music business and the only way to do that is to make something powerful and with a statement, come on guys, the united kingdom, for the love of god, step up! Lets make a music revolution, like the 60's, let's use the technology we have available now to make something unique!

their talking about an overall perspective. The top charts, sadly, encourage using music as a form of money rather than enjoyment or expressionism, its being used as a way of making money! All she's stating is the fact the top official charts could be more special, more influencing, more real, you know what I'm saying people?

As an American, was hoping that I might find a home where people are remembering and celebrating David Bowie's music. Not criticizing by any means, hear my choices are Taylor Swift or Jay Z.

Harmony being a contributing factor to music, tell me, Simeon, what do you know of harmony, tonality, and counterpoint? There is a definition of good music if you're judging it by the musical skill and integrity behind it. Beethoven wrote great music, BB King wrote great music. So, while you think it is all subjective, think again.

But it is subjective! People have different tastes in music! Are you suggesting that Beethoven and BB King wrote objectively "good music" meaning literally EVERYBODY agrees it's good?

Yes, a lot of people do agree Beethoven wrote good music. But some people might disagree. As long as everyone has different minds, everyone will have different tastes in food, art, hobbies, and of course, music.

No one, not even Beethoven is objectively good. Sorry, Zak, but you are wrong.

Harmony is a mathematical concept, it is not subjective. Everyone who knows anything about harmony will agree that: Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven wrote objectively increidble works. I am not talking about music in an emotional sense. I am talking about it in mathematical terms. Which you clearly don't seem to understand. Now, answer my question, what do you know/understand about harmony and counterpoint?

"Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven wrote objectively increidble works."

First off, you misspelled "incredible."
Second, I'm talking about music in forms of taste. People like different types of music, and not everyone has to like Bach, Mozart, or Beethoven. Stop forcing your opinions on me! No one's taste in music is subjectively better, and no musician, not Mozart, not Bach, not Metallica, not Elvis, not Nicki Minaj, not Slipknot, not the Beatles, not Johnny Cash, not anyone has "objectively good" music. I bet you all the money on earth squared that you could find somebody who doesn't like Beethoven's music. If you asked them why, they'd probably say, "I just don't like him. I prefer ______ more."

I clearly understand you. Also, I know about harmony in music, which pretty much all music has. Your point is?

Listen here, you nostalgic grandpa,

There is nothing wrong with today's music!

"We need music where the artists actually express themselves rather than a commercial agreement on what will get them the most money"

Artists today do express themselves! Technically, any kind of singing, or any kind of musical action is a form of expression. It's not any less a kind of expression than the artists you like. As for the money part, uh... that's kind of what pop music is about. It's made by companies to get them money. No one seems to get upset about that aspect in any other product you'd buy anywhere like a pair of jeans or a Big Mac at McDonald's, so why is music different? If that aspect bothers you, just don't listen to it. Simple. Also... isn't all music technically made "for money?" Artists expect people to buy their music... just like in the 60's. I could say the same thing to you about how it's "for money" for your 60's music you like.

"We need more spirit within the music business and the only way to do that is to make something powerful and with a statement"

Oh, so everything has to have a statement, huh? If a song doesn't address a political issue or doesn't have "spirit," whatever the heck that is, it's bad? I could easily point out songs from the 60's that don't address political issues or have minimal effort--the Beatles. Is "I Want to Hold Your Hand?" addressing something important and powerful? No! It's a love song to a girl, just like today's boybands like One Direction. And, the last time I checked, not every song from the 60's was about something powerful and important.

"Lets make a music revolution"

And... who do you expect to join you? Music is music and people have different tastes. Stop judging others for their tastes. How'd you like it if I threw at you for subjectively liking something? As long as we all have different minds, we will all have different tastes in food, art, hobbies, and of course, music. It's not hurting anyone. So stop acting like it's killing all of humanity. Soldiers are dying in Afghanistan, kids are dying of starvation in Africa and you're worried about the music today's public listens to.

I feel bad for you.

'I know about harmony', interesting. Right, let's begin. Firstly, I am not forcing my opinion on you. Secondly, it is not an opinion that Bach, Mozart and Beethoven wrote incredible works. Thirdly, If you're talking about music in taste, rather than in mathematical terms then we're talking about completely different things. Finally, you understand me? I don't think you do, and what that has to do with this I don't know.

P.s 'pretty much all music' has harmony? All music has harmony...

"Secondly, it is not an opinion that Bach, Mozart and Beethoven wrote incredible works."

I understand the talent of Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven and the tedious hours it probably took them to write their music. That is not an opinion. I'm talking about whether or not someone likes it. That is an opinion.

"P.s 'pretty much all music' has harmony? All music has harmony..."

All music has melody too! No, wait, some death metal has no melody! As long as music exists, people can continue to experiment with it, so if someone makes a piece of music that essentially has no harmony or a very strange harmony, I wouldn't be surprised.

Actually you would find melody within the harmony of the inner parts, just saying. :D You're intelligent, and I see an opportunity to show you something. You said 'if someone makes a piece of music that essentially has no harmony or a very strange harmony, I wouldn't be surprised.' So I assume you know that in Western Classical music we use semi-tones and tones? Right well, some modern composers have experimented (myself included) With using 1/4 semi-tones/tones to create serious unrest in the harmonic sequences. There is a famous Bassoon piece I cannot remember it.. Ummm. - Whether or not some one likes it is opinion, but I don't have time for that. The reason I thought you were talking about it in the 'mathematical' sense was ' produce beauty of form, harmony'. My bad. Now, let me find this piece for you.

Posting a YouTube link doesn't work on Disqus. It'll just say "Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by (whatever site you're on)." You'll just have to tell me what it's called and I'll have to look it up.

I cannot find the Bassoon piece, which was incredibly interesting to listen to. It wasn't obvious the harmony was out, but you felt like something wasn't right. Go onto YouTube and type in 'Schoenberg - Complete String Quartets'. They're not as harmonically strange as the Bassoon one but they're still odd, but amazing. Listen to as much as you can.

he is not able to answer as he is a simpleton.

I got the same lecture when I was a kid in the late 70's.

To be fair, all those bands had lovers and haters in their prime. And older people always claim the past was better. In another twenty years Justine Bieber fans will say the same. Back in the days we had Justin..LOL

Thanks to Simon Cowell and his ilk.

Somewhere below 100 it seems. On the sales-only chart (without streams), it's at 80. But on purely CD sales, it's at the top, which shows how small the market for CD singles is these days.

She entered at 9 on Black Eye / Mad Friday, dropped to 12 on Xmas Day, became the fastest falling X Factor single in chart history when it dropped to 61 on New Year's Day and now is down at least another 40 places to outside the top 100 making it the biggest X Factor flop single in chart history.

Great news maybe that will put an end to it all

Check out the Physical Sales chart and think again....

The internet was the worst thing that happened to the top 40. Physical sales meant record labels has to ISSUE singles to record stores but now you just click a link to buy a single and singles are not even singles anymore, any album track is now eligible for the official top 40 (streaming and sales). And how do we even know if download sales are entirely genuine? Record companies could download their own artists' tracks to boost album sales. Online downloads is open to manipulation by major labels. Not saying it happens but online stuff is open to abuse.

The chart has been distorted and it's a great shame. I'm not against progress, the internet has many benefits, but when Justin Bieber holds the record for 8 tracks (many not even singles!) in the top 40 and now three top positions -1,2 and 3 - you know something has gone terribly wrong with the chart format.