Taylor Swift surpasses Madonna as female artist with most UK Number 1 albums with Lover (Live From Paris)

I knew you'd be here soon enough. Fact remains Kylie (your real fav) has not beaten the Queen of Pop's record, so I don't know why you're rubbing your hands together with glee. and even if Kylie does, Madonna still wins by a landslide worldwide anyway, not just in number ones, but also sales and touring, so you can keep checking that bingo card all you like.

We know full well Kylie isn't even in my top 10. Her first producers are.

If you search these forums deeply, you'll notice that I expected Madonna to lose her record, but not to Kylie. I'm right. That was about 5-8 years ago somewhere. In fact I expected the record to go to someone who was yet to have their debut as neither Kylie or Taylor then had the momentum they've achieved since.

My real favourites do each hold UK records, but not this one. Biggest selling female single, oldest female single #1, best selling worldwide album 1990s, 'most weeks on chart by a single Album' - 2 different artists, between them. Can you guess who they are? They are not anyone mentioned on the above list or this thread.

I'm happy do see artists I don't like lose their records. Next up, the Beatles. I don't like Robbie either but would like to see the record go. If anyone is going to do it, it's Taylor. Clearly at the peak of her career despite the length of it. Should get 3 more #1 albums before the decade is out.

I don't care about the world. The UK is a unique culture and the only one that matters here. The local artists, specific combination of international artists and records. Many artists who hit the chart only do so here. By far the most interesting variety of hits and artists worldwide.

I bring chart objectivity to Madonna threads. You're the one with Kylie living rent free in your head. Seemingly one can't exist without the other in these threads, even when the story is only about one of them.

Correct me if I'm wrong, DJ, but "biggest selling female single" and "oldest female single #1" must be Cher (Believe), and "best selling worldwide album 1990s" and "most weeks on chart by a single Album" must be ABBA (Gold), at least based on the latter of those – was it the best-selling album of the '90s to boot?!

Because they are being paid to give advantages to new artists like Taylor Swift.... who claims 4 number 1's with old albums. It discredits her as an artist tbh. 

Dont apologise! She has 8 number 1's in most peoples eyes! And only 4 number 1 singles

Sore loser

You're the one supporting a vanilla pod, dear. Not me.

One just needs to do their research to see who in the music business brought something new to the table.

One thing is very clear The Beatles are in that certain group. 

These artists are special and made a difference and paved the way for many other artists who followed them. They are cemented into the music history books. Cannot be changed.

The rest who did not make it were merely very popular solo artists, bands, groups. Fact!

Technically Madonna has 14 number 1 singles since Gimme All Your Love was discounted by the Official Charts because they claimed it was given away free, as an incentive to buy the MDNA album. It most certsinly was not free! You pre ordered the MDNA album and got Gimme All Your Love instantly BUT WERE CHARGED for it! Result??? The Official Charts decided to make up some bogus rule which stated that was wrong, resulting in first 3 days of sale being deducted. At the time ageist hate for Madonna was rampant in the UK press and i believe the Official Charts were acting to sabotage her 14th number 1. It would have been number 1. Yet here we are allowing Taylor to cheat her way up the charts. 

Nah just pointing out fact that re packaged old albums are essentially the same album. And she cant do this with her singles. Shes a cheat and has 8 number 1 albums. 

Wow, you are bitter for some reason!

Let's use some of your logic then on Madonna. 2 of her number ones were greatest hits (re-packaging old songs) so don't count. Evita was an OST which included tracks by other artists so not technically a Madonna album, knock another off.

Only 2 of Taylor's versions of her previous albums made number one so why take 4 off her total? I see maths isn't your strong suit.

Having said that I think during Madonna's peak it was a lot harder to get a number one AND she is brilliant. Just don't know why you're Taylor bashing.

Agist hate eh? Well I did see a painting of her holding Jesus the other day.

More like facts, maths and the truth aren't your strong suit considering:

"Fearless - Taylors version" #1

"Red - Taylors version" #1

"Speak Now - Taylors version" #1

"1989" - Taylors version" #1

Secondly, we're talking about her repacking entire old albums, not singles, so therefore The Immaculate Collection and Celebration don't count, and even if they did I guess we should also discount GH's packages by Elvis, Robbie, MJ, Prince, Whitney, Kylie...the list goes on.  Saying that, I bet you wouldn't discredit Taylor's GH's (lol) if ever she released one and it topped the charts.

Lastly, Madonna sings on 15 out of 19 songs on Evita, so therefore she sings on the majority and should be counted as a Madonna album.

Hey, I never knew this about GMAYL.

Thanx for the info!

@BettyBoop3

But, "Fearless" and "Speak Now" weren't number ones in their original version so have only been counted as number ones once. Can you not read?
Looks like your facts (and maths) aren't too good either.

In the words of Thomsy26 repackaged music shouldn't count so if that's the case then no, greatest hits shouldn't count for anyone, using their logic. Coincidentally, repackaged isn't the correct term for Taylor's Versions seeing as they were totally re-recorded from scratch and not simply the original recordings bunged together on a compilation and called a new album.

As I said earlier, I'm not bashing Madonna, I think she's brilliant. I like some of Taylor's music too amongst literally hundreds of other. All I was doing was pointing out hypocrisy!

That's the truth.

The fact that the original versions of Fearless and Speak now weren't #1's is irrelevant.

Besides, you said "Only 2 of Taylor's versionsof her previous albums made number one", which is still an incorrect statement when 4 of them went to #1.

We can all see what you wrote and know exactly what you meant, it's there in B/W, so don't try and twist it into something else.

and like I said before, using the Greatest Hits excuse doesn't wash when it's only the singles being repackaged, NOT entire albums.